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Make SULFURIC acid from WEAK oxalic acid with the SUN
In this video we're going to make sulfuric acid by the oxalate precipitation method.
The idea is rather simple, oxalic acid produces insoluble metal oxalates with a lot of metal salts. But in doing so, the salt anions are left behind in solution and become their respective acids. So a metal sulfate can be converted into sulfuric acid by removing the metal ions with oxalic acid. The conversion isn't perfect, but it's good enough to give better than 50% yield under the right circumstances.
300g of Iron (II) sulfate heptahydrate was mixed with 1L of water and stirred until dissolved. Then 200g of oxalic acid with heated with 300mL of water until dissolved. The two liquids are mixed and iron oxalate precipitates out. This can be filtered but for improved yield, i found leaving it out in the sun to photolyze any dissolved Iron (III) oxalate for 8 hours increased yields by 10%. After filtration the filtrate is boiled down until it starts to crystalize and then cooled and filtered again before the filtrate is distilled at high temperature to get sulfuric acid. Effective yield was around 67%.
I wasn't able to get Magnesium sulfate or copper sulfate to work. I think magnesium sulfate just doesn't work, but copper sulfate produces ultrafine copper oxalate that can't be filtered.
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Purification of Sulfuric Acid by Distillation: ua-cam.com/video/0Gb9rM9BJ8I/v-deo.html
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Measuring Density with Pycnometers, Hydrometers, and Graduated Cylinders
Переглядів 16 тис.21 день тому
In this video, we delve into various methods and tools used in analytical chemistry to determine density accurately. Starting with basic techniques using graduated cylinders, we then explore more specialized equipment like hydrometers and pycnometers. We go through how to calibrate these tools and measure density with precision, even for irregular solids and powders. We also explore how the pro...
Make Potassium Nitrate and Sodium Nitrate from Calcium Nitrate - An Alternative to Ammonium Nitrate
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In this video we make Potassium Nitrate and Sodium Nitrate using the easily obtained Calcium Nitrate. Potassium nitrates and sodium nitrates are sought after for their pyrotechnic uses as well as for making alternative aqua regia. I've previously shown how to make them from ammonium nitrate, but ammonium nitrate is getting harder and harder to find as stricter regulations are enacted. Fortunate...
Lab notes - Making Oleum - 20% yield improvement - (May 4th - 2024)
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More lab notes on making sulfur trioxide and oleum. This time i was able to get up to 20%-25% yield with improved heating with better insulation. Also found out that precise temperature control is important and that the polymerization of the sulfur trioxide phases can be easily initiated by smearing it with a pipette on air. Previous videos: Purification of Sulfuric Acid by Distillation Revisit...
Lab Notes - Making Oleum - Successful - (April 21-2024)
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These are my lab notes trying to make Oleum or Fuming Sulfuric Acid by amateur means. Turns out it is possible to do it with just a ceramic hotplate, sulfuric acid, and sodium bisulfate. Along with standard laboratory glassware. But so far the yield is around 13%. I'm trying to optimize it. The procedure is simply heat the sodium bisulfate on the ceramic hotplate and pyrolyze it until it become...
Purification of Sulfuric Acid by Distillation - Revisited
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In this video we purify sulfuric acid again using distillation but improve our technique using a ceramic hotplate stirrer and PTFE tape to seal the joints. I start by highlighting the inherent dangers associated with handling sulfuric acid and stress the importance of safety precautions, including wearing protective clothing and performing the procedure in a well-ventilated area or fume hood. I...
Do your own Gamma Spectroscopy with the Radiacode 103
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Buy the RadiaCode here: 102.radiacode.com/NurdRage In this video we review the radiacode 103, a handheld gamma ray spectrometer. We also as explore basic aspects of gamma ray spectroscopy. Geiger counters measure radiation, and they're easy to buy online. But all they do is measure how much radiation there is. The Radiacode is a gamma spectrometer and can measure the energy of each individual g...
Thanks for 2023, Channel Updates, Plans, and Thoughts
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Thanks for watching! Donate to NurdRage! Through Patreon (preferred): www.patreon.com/NurdRage Through UA-cam Memberships: ua-cam.com/channels/IgKGGJkt1MrNmhq3vRibYA.htmljoin Other UA-cam channels that i think are amazing: @That_Chemist @theCodyReeder @ExplosionsAndFire @nomcopterlabs @ChemicalForce @AppliedScience @Chemiolis @chemdelic @LabCoatz_Science @AdvancedTinkering @THYZOID @NileRed Twi...
Promethean Matches - The Ancestor to Modern Matches
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In this video we make the ancestor to modern matches before phosphorus: The Promethean Match The operating principle is that sulfuric acid would react with potassium chlorate and sugar to catch fire. So to turn it into a match, the sulfuric acid was stored in a glass capsule that was broken and mixed with potassium chlorate and sugar. This would ignite and set fire to the paper roll it was pack...
Make Isopropyl Nitrite without Sodium Nitrite
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In this video, we make isopropyl nitrite without using sodium nitrite. Typically, amateur chemists use sodium nitrite, hydrochloric acid, and isopropyl alcohol for this process, but sodium nitrite is becoming harder to obtain. This sodium nitrite-free pathway goes through nitrosylsulfuric acid which can be made using more easily obtained fuming nitric acid and sulfur dioxide. To make fuming nit...
This Candle MAKES Oxygen and Started a Fire on a Space Station
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In this video we make an Oxygen Candle that actually MAKES oxygen as it burns. It's also called a chemical oxygen generator. To make it, 60g of potassium chlorate are mixed with 30g of iron metal powder and 2g of calcium oxide. The powders are thoroughly mixed and initiated by direct flames or a sparkler. The reaction burns the iron powder and generates enough heat to decompose the remaining po...
How to Make Your Own Flameless Ration Heaters and the science of how they work.
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In this video we show how Flameless Ration Heaters and self heating food containers work. Inside of them is a water activated exothermic chemical reaction. The most common one is magnesium iron alloy and salt. When water is activated it produces magnesium hydroxide and plenty of heat. Less common mixtures include sodium hydroxide and aluminum, magnesium metal and sodium bisulfate, aluminum and ...
Lab Notes - Failure in Making Sodium Nitrite
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In this video i synthesize nitrosylsulfuric acid and isopropyl nitrite, and i tried to make sodium nitrite but i failed. My original goal was to make sodium nitrite. Sodium nitrite sets itself apart from the more common sodium nitrate by having one less oxygen atom, which makes it quite unstable under various conditions. This particular challenge intrigued me, and I thought I'd give it a try, e...
Make Potassium Permanganate
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Make Potassium Permanganate
Chemical Thunderstorm in a Beaker
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Chemical Thunderstorm in a Beaker
3 Ways to Make Sulfur Dioxide Gas
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3 Ways to Make Sulfur Dioxide Gas
Lab Equipment Repair: Broken Stirrer Encoder Disc in Hotplate Stirrer
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Lab Equipment Repair: Broken Stirrer Encoder Disc in Hotplate Stirrer
Lab notes - Making Potassium Permanganate
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Lab notes - Making Potassium Permanganate
Make Potassium Chlorate from Bleach
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Make Potassium Chlorate from Bleach
Find the Concentration of Hydrogen Peroxide by Titration with Potassium Permanganate
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Find the Concentration of Hydrogen Peroxide by Titration with Potassium Permanganate
Make Sodium Oxalate - Primary Standard for Analytical Chemistry
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Make Sodium Oxalate - Primary Standard for Analytical Chemistry
Lab Equipment: Rotary Evaporator or "Rotovap"
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Lab Equipment: Rotary Evaporator or "Rotovap"
How Does Aqua Regia Dissolve Gold and Platinum?
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How Does Aqua Regia Dissolve Gold and Platinum?
Make Sodium Hydroxide by Electrolysis with a Nafion Membrane Cell
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Make Sodium Hydroxide by Electrolysis with a Nafion Membrane Cell
Make a Nafion Divided Membrane Cell for Electrolysis
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Make a Nafion Divided Membrane Cell for Electrolysis
Lab Notes: Making Copper Sulfate and Electrobonding Wires
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Lab Notes: Making Copper Sulfate and Electrobonding Wires
Chemical Resistance of Palladium
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Chemical Resistance of Palladium
Efficiently Recover Nitric Acid and Copper Metal From Copper Nitrate Wastes
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Efficiently Recover Nitric Acid and Copper Metal From Copper Nitrate Wastes
Nitric Acid Concentration and Purification (Azeotropic and Fuming)
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Nitric Acid Concentration and Purification (Azeotropic and Fuming)
DANGEROUS reaction of ACID and GLOVES
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DANGEROUS reaction of ACID and GLOVES

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  • @greenmario3011
    @greenmario3011 20 годин тому

    Does this mean ebonizing wood with iron (II) sulfate also produces small amounts of sulfuric acid in the wood after the iron tannate complex forms? I know you say it doesn't work with other acids but if they weren't reacting there wouldn't be tons of black complex crashing out and dyeing the wood.

  • @nickvalentine6438
    @nickvalentine6438 21 годину тому

    I wonder if you can boil it and then boil the secondary solution and repeat the process a few times. If ammonia leaves before H20

  • @sammorgan31
    @sammorgan31 22 години тому

    There really is no excuse for a bad manual anymore. That one looks like a 40 year old Xerox of an 80 year old book.

  • @vanillapotaeto4098
    @vanillapotaeto4098 23 години тому

    59:53

  • @HerDerderp-nh7vb
    @HerDerderp-nh7vb День тому

    Following this channel since 1999. Great stuff as always.

  • @MitchLong-yy7ke
    @MitchLong-yy7ke День тому

    How do you trap the gas in a container?

  • @OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt
    @OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt День тому

    Does using electric to tarnish Platinum Palladium and rhodium differ from the tarnish of silver? I guess what I'm asking is do they produce their own colors differently than silver?

  • @OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt
    @OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt День тому

    Amazing stuff man I'm just imagining like what woman does not want some pretty blue purple rainbow silver coin in her purse when we switch back over to the hard currency it's going to be an emotional thing to both give and receive for whatever the work is it makes more valuable the moment of your life.

  • @xXFlorianXx10001
    @xXFlorianXx10001 День тому

    Gotta love me some good reducing agents ;)

  • @user-wi9xc4fz2k
    @user-wi9xc4fz2k День тому

    it was really usefull,thanks a lot.but i have a question. is this possible to connect the negative end of the battery to the aluminium foil?

  • @ierunam
    @ierunam День тому

    Awesome! Where do you get the radioluminescence tritium ligths?

  • @dpasek1
    @dpasek1 День тому

    Hi NR, I have a few ideas for you to try: You can use the cheap coil hotplate if you use an appropriate heat spreader. Try using a heavy bottom stainless steel frying pan of the type used with induction hot plates. It will survive acid spills at the working temperature of this process. It will also help if you use a heat transfer fluid between the pan and the bottom of your flask. I would suggest a molten salt eutectic of 60:40 mixture of sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate, which is a liquid between 260-550 °C (500-1,022 °F). You won't need much. This is easy to make and pretty safe since you have no organic material nearby, and will survive acid spills with only a little release of HNO3 vapor at operating temp. Just don't let the salt freeze around your flask during cooling. Raise the flask or lower the pan. Your process is at the upper limit of silicone heat transfer fluids, so they are not very stable and may smoke or gel. There are previous suggestions of a sand bath, and while this could work, thermal conductivity and thus temperature controllability is poor. Use a fluidized bed system instead if you want to use this approach. In any case, use a stainless steel sheathed type K thermocouple in the molten salt or sand near the bottom of the reaction flask with an electronic PID controller like a REX-C100PID to closely regulate your temperature, the same as you could use with a Glas-Col mantle. The PID controller allows you to tune and compensate for the thermal mass of the heating system and is much better than the older SCR type heater controls. For your safety catch pan, use a kitty litter tray or steel tray half filled with dry clay type kitty litter. It will safely absorb a hot acid spill. I looked up the prep: Preparation of Sulfur Trioxide and Oleum, by GARAGE CHEMIST on ScienceMadness.org: He has some useful ideas. His use of Sodium Peroxydisulfate (Persulfate) is interesting. The advantage over Sodium Pyrosulfate is that it is non-hygroscopic, so it can be dried completely at low temperature. It decomposes at 180 °C to O2 and dry Pyrosulfate, so there is no water to distill off prior to SO3 production. If this release of O2 happens in solid phase, (I think this is the case) it would be a handling advantage. GC used a *small* amount of concentrated H2SO4 as a decomposition catalyst to lower the reaction temperature, much less Sulfuric than you are using, and this should improve yield. Distilled concentrated Sulfuric still has about 2% water due to high temp decomposition of vapor. This decomposes some pyrosulfate before SO3 is formed. This is why your use of 2x sulfuric acid gave lower yield. It looks like the Persulfate plus small amount of Sulfuric in the GC setup is a slightly damp powder, and remains so, which would eliminate any need for a stir bar. Your Erlenmeyer flask is a better idea than his RB flask for purpose of even heat transfer. Persulfate is commercially made from Bisulfate by electrolysis. I wonder if it could also be made by adding an appropriate amount of 30% H2O2 (or even 3%?) to the Bisulfate and gently heating to dryness? If so, this would be an easier route to Pyrosulfate even for regeneration of residual Na2SO4 for later batches. You might have to break up caked Persulfate. If it works out right, there will be no initial distillation of water before SO3 production, and no molten salt to deal with, so yield will improve. At worst, you might get some Piranha. There is no need to collect the water in a pre-distillation. You can just let your blanketed reaction flask vent to the air until it starts to fume, then you can install your short-path condenser. This keeps your glassware dry. Another observation is that it looks like there would be an advantage to adding some Sodium Bisulfate to a batch of Sulfuric acid when distilling the acid to obtain 98% concentrate. This might prevent bumping and eliminate need for stirring. How much? IDK, try empirical. Maybe a little, or maybe a lot. Erlenmeyer flask looks better than RB in this case too. Less trouble even if it does bump. I don't have an appropriate safe setup for this ATM or I would try it all myself. Regards... D

  • @lemmerelassal2795
    @lemmerelassal2795 День тому

    Centrifuge.

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics День тому

    The over-unity wackos might see this video and say HHO! HHO! Free infinite energy! Just hook the electrodes together with a light bulb! I sell plans online!

  • @Physicus9
    @Physicus9 День тому

    I have been watching your videos for so long it's ridiculous; I just have a quick comment on a possibility for an improvement in this one. Would there be any possibility of improvement in the copper method using a very fine Celite? Or rather more specifically, would you be able to separate an extra fine celite powder from the distillate and then be able to use the resulting solution? Unfortunately instead of my original college degree being chemistry (like 7 years ago), I decided to go with Finance, so I truly don't know if there's any major issues with this thought, but if you or anyone else cares to respond, I would be thrilled to gain any knowledge y'all have about this process!! =)

  • @firzaubb121
    @firzaubb121 День тому

    Please tell me where I can buy this elemen. Or what name of this element?

  • @Holistic-Healthcare
    @Holistic-Healthcare День тому

    Naw that little baby round bottom boiling flask!

  • @StuffIThink
    @StuffIThink 2 дні тому

    this looks like it should be agonizingly painful...

  • @user-oj9iz4vb4q
    @user-oj9iz4vb4q 2 дні тому

    I feel like if you could continuously filter the precipitate out the magnesium yield would go up. Like use a cheap aquarium pump to cycle it through a filter. Might take longer but bulk processing "hands off" is still pretty good.

  • @pablog.3906
    @pablog.3906 2 дні тому

    Excellent! after googling I found that iron sulphate heptahydrate is = ferrous sulphate, te one easy to get that I use on the garden. Oxalic acid is also easy to get as wood bleacher.

  • @user-fs3mx2nx4d
    @user-fs3mx2nx4d 2 дні тому

    F****** orbeez

  • @alfredmolison7134
    @alfredmolison7134 2 дні тому

    Nitric acid seems really expensive. Is it worth the time and inputs to make it in my own lab instead of buying it?

  • @Jojosloes
    @Jojosloes 2 дні тому

    So like...... IS THIS LEGAL, PUT IT IN A CONTAINER AND YOU MADE A BOMB.

  • @colinnel2763
    @colinnel2763 2 дні тому

    What the hel for ?

  • @iBlue0riginal
    @iBlue0riginal 2 дні тому

    6:00 As a reducing agent you can use regular iron wool. It reduces Fe3+ to Fe2+ while going in solution as Fe2+, gives a purer product and can be easily filtered off.

  • @wendynicolemuse-johnson
    @wendynicolemuse-johnson 2 дні тому

    ❤ interesting 😎

  • @anon-means-anon
    @anon-means-anon 3 дні тому

    It's crazy to think how much my life has changed since first finding this channel. I have got married, had a kid, bought a house, paid it off, and had my 12th anniversary in the meantime. The videos have stayed at the same high quality. No annoying sponsorships, no over the top clickbait, just good repeatable information. Here's to another 15 years or so, Mr. Rage.

  • @calculatedrush
    @calculatedrush 3 дні тому

    Do you have a project you're working towards? I'm trying to see if the last few videos are forshadowing anything.

  • @ATMyller
    @ATMyller 3 дні тому

    Oh it's SUN light. I was wondering what the devil sulphur uranium nitride is?

  • @timdunk7278
    @timdunk7278 3 дні тому

    Excellent. Thank you

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 3 дні тому

    That odd moment when Barkeeper's Friend is for more than just cleaning up brightwork.

  • @BulletMagnet83
    @BulletMagnet83 3 дні тому

    How does the yield compare to dry-distilling the Iron Sulphate directly, like back in the days of alchemy? Suppose I bought a 50lb sack of the stuff because it's not particularly expensive, and making an iron retort isn't a problem.

  • @Steevo69
    @Steevo69 3 дні тому

    I hate it when the reaction is making weak ass ids.

  • @Spencergolde
    @Spencergolde 3 дні тому

    From a molecular bio approach, I think centrifugation is probably the best way to seperate the milk of coppernisia you made, though this requires a centrifuge. If you have one already this might be worth exploring

  • @Alloran
    @Alloran 3 дні тому

    I do enjoy the clarification of parallel methods that may (or may not) work. It's fascinating how transition metals with supposedly equivalent behaviors end up being entirely different when you go to try the method. Should the metal oxylate form? Sure thing. Does it? Probably. Can you separate it? Not at all, yes, and maybe.

  • @memejeff
    @memejeff 3 дні тому

    Sweet. Great to see more accessible syntheses.

  • @thegold3538
    @thegold3538 3 дні тому

    Do you think aluminium sulfate could be used instead of ferrous sulfate. It is also insoluble in water, so it should be nearly the same reaction, or is there something more to ir

  • @sergioalvescordeiro9495
    @sergioalvescordeiro9495 3 дні тому

    Será que não dá pra fazer ácido sulfúrico com ácido sulfamico + ácido nítrico??

  • @epicname1549
    @epicname1549 3 дні тому

    Pretty sure you are some kind of genius

  • @quint3ssent1a
    @quint3ssent1a 3 дні тому

    that clip of Astarion yelling about sun was so unexpected i nearly choked on my tea.

  • @david.kirmayer
    @david.kirmayer 3 дні тому

    Please make sure the video is not blocked off by 2-minute unskippable ads of lame games. Could not watch the video to the end, and I'm not staying around for 2 minutes of a game ad.

    • @NurdRage
      @NurdRage 3 дні тому

      There isn't a game ad,

  • @mmmhorsesteaks
    @mmmhorsesteaks 3 дні тому

    Don't they usually use some polyaluminates to flocculate more effectively? great vid tho. I really thought the magnesium would work; ion radii are similar so you'd think it would just electrostatically sort of work out... clearly more going on of course :)

  • @MarkiusFox
    @MarkiusFox 3 дні тому

    Ahh...the forbidden Blue Milk.

  • @paramatematico198
    @paramatematico198 3 дні тому

    Is the yield of the se reactions Better than electrolysis of copper sulfate?

  • @Dumbscience4thewin
    @Dumbscience4thewin 3 дні тому

    so to get artound the dirty filtrate i put one filter a top another and put it on a stand and yeah worked great 2 filtering steps and its clear as anything this was the calcium nitrate method is viable for me at least its very pure NaNO3 from this process of dissolving it the calcium form and then adding sodium carbonate which produces the same chalk like white paste of just calcium carbonate (i think) im not a chemist by any means just an amateur with a hobby and a love for the science!

  • @horatiumoldovan4836
    @horatiumoldovan4836 3 дні тому

    I bet you are unaware of the impressive number of people that became chemists fom your inspiration just by simply helping me pave my way to it since I made sure to perpetrate the passion for it and I'm pretty confident I'm not the only one.

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 3 дні тому

    All through this video, I was thinking about the big bag of copper sulphate out in the shed... so thanks for answering my inevitable question without me even having to ask it. :)

  • @juver890
    @juver890 3 дні тому

    Up next sulphuric to pure sulphur ?

  • @diablominero
    @diablominero 3 дні тому

    Would alum help the copper oxalate settle?